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Health Is Wealth: Nutritionist Alana Bonneman
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Journey with us as we explore the fascinating life of Alana Bonneman, a celebrated nutritionist whose path took her from the sunlit shores of Australia to the bustling cities of Germany. Alana opens up about her holistic philosophy, grounded in naturopathy, herbal medicine, and nutrition, to tackle the modern health challenges that many face today. She shares her expertise on issues like hormonal imbalances and stress, especially in women, and reveals how proper nutrition and lifestyle adjustments can naturally lead to better health and effortless weight management.
We tackle the stark realities of our modern food industry and its ramifications on global health, especially the rise of processed foods and misleading marketing. Alana passionately discusses the irreplaceable role of vegetables in fostering gut health and overall well-being, encouraging us to listen to our bodies and respond to their signals before they escalate. By embracing a natural, diverse diet over supplements, we can harness the full potential of our nutrition to support bodily functions, from brain health to thyroid function.
Get a taste of Alana's unique perspective on balancing family life with nutritional practices, and how cultural contrasts between Australia and Germany shape her approach to health and indulgence. We reflect on the dedication required in podcasting and draw parallels to resilience in sports and life. With humor and insight, Alana and our hosts inspire listeners to see life's hurdles as avenues for growth, underscoring that even modest lifestyle tweaks can lead to profound transformations. Tune in for an episode that promises wisdom, levity, and the tools to cultivate a healthier, more fulfilling life.
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welcome back to one-on-one with mr you great hope. You hope you're having a great day wherever you are and how you're listening to our show. As always, our interviews are always insightful and thoughtful and we hope you provide help and information for those that are watching and listening. And this morning we have famed nutritionist Alana Bonneman with us today. She has a lot to talk about. Honestly, I'm excited about this one for more than a few reasons, because health and understanding of our health is a big deal for me and my household and people who are close to me, even some of our listeners. So I'm hoping that you get value out of this, whether you're watching it live or you catch it on the replay. If you are watching this on YouTube, please check out YouTubecom at TheyCallMeMr. You'll see the live episode there if you can't watch it live with us now and, of course, simulcast on all your social media platforms. But good morning, alana. Well, it's afternoon for you. Where you are? Where are you exactly today?
Speaker 2:I'm in Germany, I'm coming from Germany, so my afternoon is your morning, but thank you so much for having me, the pleasure is mine.
Speaker 1:It's been a great chatting with you before this and I'm excited to hear what you're going to share with our listeners. So I'm excited, but we had so many great insightful conversations. I think one of the things that I really want have you share about is kind of your story, because you're from australia, if you want to understand. So I'm going to share briefly share your story from your journey from Australia to Germany and such. It may not be unusual to make that trip from Australia to Germany. Others have done it before. I've heard of others who have done it, but it's a beautiful love story attached to yours.
Speaker 2:I love to hear that it is an ultimate love story. Actually, yes, I'm from Australia originally and when I was 16 at high school, the German exchange student came to my school and he was my first boyfriend and we didn't stay together the whole time, but over the years, you know, I went to Germany traveling, I went to Europe, he came to Australia and over the years we stayed in touch. There was ups and there was downs and in the end we decided you know, when you meet someone and you have the same values and you have the same outlook, this has been. You know. We met in 2002 when we were 16, we decided okay, let's do this 2010. And now it's 2024 and we're married, with two kids and living in Germany. That's the short story of it.
Speaker 1:That's a great story, though. I love it Wow. So okay, there's a lot I want to get into, so we'll take our time with this and not rush this. This is pretty cool, but describe for our audience what you do as a nutritionist and what your goal is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's it. What is the goal? You know why? Why do we do this?
Speaker 2:So I'm a nutritionist but I've actually studied naturopathy, which it's kind of an umbrella term for nutrition, also homeopathy, although I don't really not really into it, and also herbal medicine. So it's a holistic approach to health. And for me, nutrition it's more than just eat well and do this. For me it's the foundation of health. You know everyone's eating. We're all doing it several times a day and it has such a profound effect on how we feel, how we show up. You know our mood, how well we work, how well we focus, how productive we are, how we feel.
Speaker 2:And for me, nutrition is, yes, as I said, more than we eat. It's a way in which I envision changing the world. I work with people one-on-one and if I can make them feel well, if I can get them to that optimal health, then they show up in their lives better. You know they're friendlier in their workplace or more productive in their workplace. They have better relationships. When they get stuck in a traffic jam, they have kind of a better approach to it because they're just feeling better. So it's a ripple effect of kind of making the world a better place, if that doesn't sound too ambitious.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. That's the motto of this show, so that's great. No, that's awesome. Without having to reveal specifics about any of your clients, what would you say is the biggest health challenge that you've seen and you've helped somebody overcome?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I work with women mostly and I work with weight management actually, and it's not because I'm in the weight space, but there's just so many conditions that come down or like so many conditions that have weight as a side effect. And so a lot of people, you know they come to see me. They say, oh I've, you know I'm carrying weight, I want to lose weight. And when we unpack that a bit, it's not like the weight is just a by-product. There are many, many things going on hormonal imbalances, stress, perhaps poor eating, maybe a thyroid condition, maybe PCOS. There's an underlying condition.
Speaker 2:So we work to kind of unpack what's going on and by correcting nutrition, by correcting lifestyle, managing stress and getting to the root cause, we can kind of like the weight becomes then just a byproduct of being health, like the weight loss becomes a byproduct of being healthy.
Speaker 2:So that's how I kind of work and I guess, yeah, to kind of hone in on that when I work with people we have we have set points, like everyone has a certain set point where they are and how they do things and how they show up in the world, and we will always go back to our set point. So even if you kind of are on a weight loss journey, let's say, and you do all the dieting and you do all the things, if it's not sustainable you'll just gravitate back to that wet point, weight point. So if anyone's tried to lose weight before and just rebounded to exactly where they've been, they're just kind of going back to their natural set point. So I work to kind of change set points in people. It's not a drastic thing, it's not like lose 10 pounds or 50 pounds, whatever it is, or you know, five kilos in a week, it's not like that. It's how can we bring in small habits to make big change?
Speaker 2:so that's kind of like avoiding a plateau yeah, and making it, making it sustainable, making it long-term.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it For all you guys that are listening and watching. First off. Thank you for listening to the interview today. I think it's going to be a blessing to you. But also, if you have any questions, by all means please jump onto our YouTube channel. All the live comments are already ready to rock and roll and you can send your questions in. Ask Alana any questions you have about health and nutrition. I'm sure she's ready to hear from you. She'd be excited to hear that you're listening to this conversation. So please drop your questions. We'll answer those as soon as they come through. So, alana, tell me, why did you start Health After 30? I'm sure that for every big invention and innovation and project, there's always a reason or purpose behind it?
Speaker 2:Why did you start Health After 30? Right. So Health After 30 is the name of my podcast, and I mean Health After 30, I feel like it's kind of a. It's a singles party for after 30s. You know that name is kind of like that.
Speaker 2:But for me, health After 30 was I got to 30 and I started looking around at my friends, my family. People were getting knee pains, people were getting back pains, people were getting stressed. Cancer started coming to the conversation. Depression, mental health, fitness I mean you know I'm already going gray.
Speaker 2:This is for me, you know, it's like it's just what happens when you turn 30. And these ideas that we had when we were 20, you've got to live fast, live fast, die young. It just doesn't work. If we don't look after ourselves, we're going to hit. If we don't look after ourselves when we're younger, we're kind of going to hit later on in life. And chronic disease might become more of a reality. If we look at our parents and what's going on in their health, we know genetics is a major factor of it, but we also know epigenetics plays a role too. So how can we change our health and how can we change it as early as possible. So for me that's kind of where Health After 30, you know, we can't just kind of rely on the old tricks that used to work.
Speaker 1:We actually need to start, yeah, stepping up and looking after ourselves. So that's where born I love it. We had a lot of candid conversations about what you've been seeing with food making people sick, and you know it's something that I've always been a bit of a label turner but over the years you start getting like more casual with it and you don't turn as much and you don't read through the laundry list of ingredients as much. But I've kind of I've kind of rebounded and gotten back to the place where I want it to be. Well, now I'm reading everything and I don't recognize it. And I, if it feels as though something I need to look up, I'll look it up before you even think about purchasing it. But why do you think, personally, from what you've seen in your experience in your business, why do you think the illnesses are a result of the foods that we eat? Why do you think that? What are you seeing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a really good question because it's not just what I see in practice. I think it's what we're also seeing in the data. Things are changing like the 80s and the 90s. There's just been this, this rise up in disease and illness and, of course, a lot of like it's a lifestyle, but a lot of that comes to our foods, the way in which foods have changed. They've changed to become irresistible. Now food is delicious. It's not just to nourish us, it's it become more than that, and so there's not only delicious food out there, but we've also got the food industry working against us. That's kind of making money from the foods that we eat, so they want us coming back for the food. Not only that, but we've also got marketing advertising. No one sees a broccoli advertised ever, you know. You see the foods that are processed. They're in packages.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie to you. That's my favourite vegetable.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie to you. We've got this happening, and it's happening. It's not only in the States, it's happening in Australia, it's happening in Germany, it's happening all over the world. And so we have what we're eating and the change in the way in which we're eating. Are we even cooking at home, or are we getting takeout? What types of foods are we cooking at home? And then how is that reflecting in our health? So there's this change that's happened in our food industry. But if we look at our lifestyle as well, from the agricultural revolution to the industrial revolution and now to the technology age, our lifestyle is skyrocketing with everything that we can do now. But humans haven't really evolved. We're still pretty much the same as we were hunter and gatherer. We still need the sunlight from the sky to activate our circadian rhythm, we still need to sleep eight hours, we still need to do certain things. We need to eat, we need to drink.
Speaker 1:We're doing it.
Speaker 2:Our lifestyle is just, it's easy to stay. Yeah, we can just stay on our phone and scroll until 4 am, the lights, you know, kind of triggering that sunrise effect, and so there's just a big disconnect. There's a massive, massive disconnect to ourselves, our body, our environment, and I think this is kind of what's making us sick. I want to say one last thing to this. If we take any animal outside of their natural environment, what happens? They get sick.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And where does, where are animals kind of just evolved? We're not as evolved as our environment yet, and so I think that's kind of what's sick as well.
Speaker 1:That makes sense. That makes sense. I know you've seen a lot in your business and even in your podcast work and the people that you talk to and the story that they share. What are you personally seeing that's been most alarming can you? Are you able to share that, just in general?
Speaker 2:well, yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to female health, there's a lot of things that go on for us, so not only uh. So we've got this menstrual cycle that comes once a month. So for women this might mean they're not getting a cycle or they can a month. So for women this might mean they're not getting a cycle or they can't have a regular cycle, which means if they want to fall pregnant, they can't fall pregnant, and so this has become like an issue for them, and then not only even if they want to become pregnant or not.
Speaker 2:We then go through that stage of life and then we'll come into perimenopause and menopause. Women are like constantly changing through all these hormonal phases. Perimenopause and menopause is kind of like the second adolescence for women, and if we're out of balance, if our body's out of balance, then it doesn't. These transitions, our monthly periods are not comfortable Perhaps. Struggle with pregnancy and then perimenopause and then menopause. All of it's quite a struggle. So I think the biggest thing that women are seeing is this constant struggle with their hormones as they try to kind of get through their month, and yeah, I think that's pretty disheartening okay, is that?
Speaker 1:is that? Are you still you think that that's related to what they eat or some other factor?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's not just what they eat. I always like to say it's never just one thing. We need to take a holistic approach to our health. We need to eat well, we need to move, we need to manage stress, we need to manage our hormones through doing all of this, and if we're not eating the right food, then it's kind of making, it can make things worse. So it's definitely something we need to address all right.
Speaker 1:So you guys that are listening and watching us here on on youtube or wherever you're, simon, casting this uh episode of one-on-one with mr you, please drop your questions. Dr lon is ready to hear from you and and take your questions and share whatever you're comfortable sharing and perhaps we can offer some uh advice and some insights on that. So please drop your questions in the chat, right where you are there. There's a. Uh, it's funny. We talked about a lot of stuff, but there's a. I have some people who are some friends and former associates of mine and they had some interesting views on on health and there's a perception in some of these circles that vegetables are not needed to be healthy it's very, very interesting.
Speaker 1:I know it's not foreign to you, but what do you personally think about that idea that we don't need to have vegetables to be healthy?
Speaker 2:well. Well, I mean, I think we need to define health right, like what is healthy. For me, healthy is like being mentally alert, being physically active and also not only on the outside feeling well and looking well, but also internally what's happening. Vegetables play a major role in our gut health and, as a naturopath, like, health is kind of the root of everything. If we're not digesting food properly, we can't absorb nutrients. We need nutrients to have strong hair, skin and nails. We need nutrients for our brains to function. We need nutrients to also just for our thyroid. Everything in our body needs nutrients, um, and we can get it from animal source, but we we need sorry, we, we need vegetables.
Speaker 2:It is so important in our day, and if anyone were to say to me we don't need them to be healthy, I would I would say we definitely do, and you know the supplement industry is massive. They, it says on the back of the package, do not, you know, you cannot replace a diet with supplements. So for us to be genuinely healthy, we need a diverse range of foods, foods that are not in packages, don't have shelf lives, don't have stabilizers or emulsifiers. We need food as close to nature as possible, and a vegetable is almost as close to nature as possible and a vegetable is almost as close to possible, close to nature as possible. So I would I would fight that to my grave to say, um, vegetables are important, important yeah, I mean, I personally love my vegetables.
Speaker 1:I know that there's people who are friends of mine so we're happy to be like, oh, we don't need't need that, all we need is just meat. I'm like, okay, well, I love meat, I'm looking for something cold. I most definitely do. Yeah, but as far as the vegetable part goes, I think it helps me out. Yeah, I can take supplements and stuff, but, like you said, if you get time to read it, you'll see that it'll probably recommend you don't try to replace it. That's why they call it a supplement, because you add it to what you already be doing. So it makes sense. And you mentioned a lot about listening to your body more. What does that mean in a nutshell for you? When you say listen to your body, can we? I hear that in in circles and commercials and in uh, nutrition circles and stuff, but what does that mean to you, to your body?
Speaker 2:to your body. Yeah, what does it mean? I feel like people we don't even know what that means anymore because it's so out of it. So what does listening to your body mean? For example, if you get up in the morning and you have a killer headache and you're thinking, oh, I'm not feeling like I can go to work today, this is your, this is your body saying, hey, something, something's up, I don't know what. Maybe you had a bad night's sleep, maybe you're dehydrated, maybe you're getting a cold or a flu. Something's going on. I need, I need help.
Speaker 2:So any kind of pain that you might be experiencing, or miss period or condition that you kind of can't beat, your, your body's telling you something and it's saying, hey, listen to me. And it usually do it quite like quietly at first. So maybe it's just a dull headache. And if you kind of just take a panadol and get back to work and, you know, push it down, then it's going to get louder and louder and louder. So you might have, you might experience like all of a sudden you might say my back is just, it's gone out. And it's not that that happened all of a sudden. That's been happening probably for months and your body's been saying hey, you know, watch out things. You know something's not doing, something's not feeling right, and if we don't address it when we hear these whispers, then it's going to get worse later on in life. So listening to your body means, when there is pain or when there is something that's not feeling right. Listening to your body means, when there is pain or when there is something that's not feeling right, not to just ignore it and soldier on, but to stop and think what am I doing in my life that's causing me? So? Can I give you an example of this, because I have this firsthand.
Speaker 2:So about a year ago I had some pretty like moving house. A lot of stress was happening in my life and I was waking up with panic attacks and I've never had panic attacks in my life. Yeah, I was waking up and I was in the middle of my hallway not sure why I was there and heart was racing and I was waking up thinking what's going on. The next morning I was groggy, I couldn't, I was so tired and I didn't know why I was having these panic attacks. And when I really sat back and thought, okay, what's my body trying to tell me? What's my body trying to communicate with me.
Speaker 2:I had to really be honest with myself about how stressful I thought this situation was, and it was. It was, you know, along with, like work and kids and moving it, the stresses of life, and then you know everything else that's going on in the world that you kind of carry on your shoulders. There was a lot going on, so I just made small changes. I would get up in the morning, I would go outside, I'd get the sunlight into my eyes. I started coming home and working on my mindset, because I was eating all the right things, I was exercising, I was journaling, but nothing was working.
Speaker 2:And I had to really. I had to really address what was stressing me in my life and re kind of retell myself a story of how I can start to do things better. And then, over time, my sleep got better and things, you know, things are now back to normal. So I think when you have an experience where your body's kind of yelling at you, we can't ignore it. We do need to, kind of we have to dig deeper, and often digging deeper is perhaps, you know, yeah, working through some things that we don't even really want to work through.
Speaker 1:That really is a great segue. To go to my next question. You and I discussed at length about the stress of podcasting.
Speaker 1:People don't realize how difficult it is to do this. I know that there's some outliers and I won't label them, but I'll say that there's a lot of people out here who just they're sitting in mom's basement and they'll just hit record and they just expect many people to listen to what they have to say. It's not really realistic and sometimes they don't even prepare. Sometimes they don't shave, they just don't care how they look, they just want to just go and talk and shoot the breeze about whatever the topic is. And you know if they're doing well, I'm not mad at them. But you know there's a lot more to it than this and in doing what you have been doing there's a lot of emotional stuff that happens. It doesn't always get on camera. We talked about it a little bit. But first off, how's your podcast been going? Health After 30? And what are you learning about yourself in the process through all of this podcasting and stress and stuff?
Speaker 2:The learning curves, god, they're big, aren't they? I mean, I enjoy it, I think, because for me, again, I feel like I've got purpose behind it.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And I think that's what you also bring to the world as well. You know, it's like bringing people, like sharing purpose, and I think this is a very big motivating factor. And I think for me it's also sharing information about holistic health for women, and I think yeah, I don't know for me that's just a platform where I can do it, but it is relentless and a lot of the time I mean anyone who's also an entrepreneur and is just putting stuff out there I feel like you put yourself out there and life just kind of slaps you on the face and over the years you keep showing up and you keep, you know, staying strong. But now I just go out into the world and I'm expecting to be hit back. Do you know what I mean? And we also talked about this Like you're a sport, you're into sport and I love that sport trains like it mentally trains you for it.
Speaker 2:You know, when you're doing exercise and you can't do it and you're like I can't do another rep or I can't do another sprint, but and you can't do it and you're like I can't do another rep or I can't do another sprint, but you push yourself anyway, I feel like being in the podcaster, you know, working, even being a parent to some extent it's just you're pushing, you're constantly pushing yourself mentally and I think that's perhaps some form of growth and, you know, usually it goes in waves. We talk about this as well, this uninformed optimism optimism it's like this is going to be great to uninformed pessimism, to like I can't do this, to hit rock bottom the 99% where you think I want to quit, and then something happens where you, you know, you start to learn, you grow, you learn from your experiences, your mistakes, and then you make that upward. Okay, I now have informed, you know, optimism. So it's definitely in waves and I think, as long as you have something to share that's worth sharing, then I think you're on the right path and that's why I kind of stand behind it myself as well. I feel like I've got something to share, I yeah well, I feel like I've got something to share.
Speaker 1:I, yeah, you do. You definitely got something to share. Yeah, that that that journey is. It's a real thing for, uh, those little pockets. But if you're not familiar with that, you just listen to us. Please understand that.
Speaker 1:Those outliers I was talking about earlier, they're in the minority. There are a lot of people out here, like Dr Alana and myself and many others that are in my circle. We are fighting for something that matters. We have a reason for what we're doing and there's a purpose behind it. Like Dr Alana mentioned earlier about purpose and importance of it, we got something to say and, like she said, if we have something that's worthwhile sharing, that's what keeps us going, because there's many days when we say you know what?
Speaker 1:Why am I doing this? I could be doing so many other things. Why am I not quitting right now? Honestly, I know it doesn't sound very healthy, but I'm going to just be open and transparent. I always am everything we do on this show or any of our brand of shows. This happens more often than I'd like to admit. I think about catching it all in. I'm not sure if I'm hitting the mark here. Am I making a difference? Am I impacting? It's not just about sports, it's about my coaching and some other things that I do as well. Am I making a difference here?
Speaker 2:Like you said, it's up and down, so uh yeah, yeah and I think, if you can impact one person's life, you know, that's that. I mean, that's that's kind of it, you know. And you also have to learn from experience, because if you never had started, you know, if you had never had started they they call me, mr you you would never be where you are. We would never even be in this conversation. Only through this action of doing it does it build.
Speaker 2:And I always like to think, if I can see my life as a movie and I know what's going to happen at the end and it's got a happy ending, like even though it's hard, now I kind of think, yeah, I don't don't want to think like I'm just optimistic, but I feel like, you know, if I can see and I know it's going to be a good ending, then I feel like I've also got something to work towards. So that's what I kind of tell myself, like the story there's ups, there's downs, but it's going to be good and I'm just going to keep. You know where energy goes, energy flows, and if I put more work into the things that I love, then that's exactly where more energy is going to come from.
Speaker 1:So that's kind of my great, I'm gonna hold on to that one. I like that idea. What was the most challenging moment as a podcaster? If you can share that.
Speaker 2:Well, this is my first time going live, so no, but I think um, you know, it's also also finding a voice and also in meeting meeting people. Um so, on the health after 30 because it's kind of niched with like females health, I've had conversations with, with pretty big people and actually you're calling me a doctor. I'm not a doctor, just so you know, like naturopath, nutritionist, but I'm not a doctor. But I've had, I've had, some people on the show who are like big movers and shakers and I've had, um, like, oh, you know, you get, you get like jittery, some sort of like stardom shock, and it's just, in the end, everyone's just people, everyone's just people doing their thing, got something to share and I think, uh, getting through those challenges was actually quite rewarding, I think in the end yeah, I know I bet I love that, love that.
Speaker 1:All right. So now, obviously, your family knows you're a nutritionist. They know what you care about. You try to implement it, I'm sure, into their meals, their breakfasts, their lunches and dinners, and you make sure the bags are packed with good things. I would think how does your family respond to that? I know that people might think just automatically, they don't think about you know, any kind of pushback, any kind of resistance. But how did your family respond? How did they first respond to your nutritional emphasis, if you will? And how are they responding now, can you?
Speaker 2:share that my family as in, like my parents, my extended family.
Speaker 1:You know what extended family in your house, people in my house, the poor people every day yeah, how would it happen?
Speaker 2:so I mean, my partner's known me for quite a long time so he's kind of been with me through the whole learning process of when I was studying, so he kind of learned with me. My poor children have just been pushed into my life, you know okay and uh, I mean, I have to say I've I've.
Speaker 2:This has been a learning journey for myself Because, you know, when I first had children, I thought you know what? They don't need to eat sugar. Why does a child need to eat sugar? It doesn't serve them any purpose, except for it tastes good and they'll want more. So I just didn't give my first child any sugar until it was around three. And I I was like you know, we eat healthy, they'll learn to eat healthy. That's not true.
Speaker 2:He went to his first birthday party he was he went, he took every single smarty off that birthday cake and sat in the corner and shoved them in my house and that was the biggest light bulb moment for me. I realized that, um, something was incredibly wrong. There was a like there was a relationship with food that he I had done something wrong. And this is actually the biggest I've done since then. I've done a lot of learning about this, about how to teach children how to eat, and that's actually how the same. It's the same for adults as well. It's it's not about the broccoli, it's not about the vegetables. It's about the habits that we have, um a relationship with food, how we choose to eat it, um, what we choose to eat. But it's not about having a strict diet. Um, there's all foods out there. You're going to go to the shopping center, you're going to the shops and it's packed with food and you know we can't deprive ourselves from potato chips or ice cream.
Speaker 2:It's, it's delicious, we love it, we, you know, we celebrate that kind of stuff you don't understand yeah, you know, a lot of people think healthy it's like I'm never eating any sugar and I'm I'm not eating and I'm just I'm just eating vegetables and meat and that's all I'm doing. But that's not. We need to be able to enjoy life. We need to be able to have birthday cake. We need to be able to come home, have a glass of wine, eat a tub of ice cream for dinner if we want. That's a lot, it is. You know, it's it. Yeah, it's the. It's the habits that we have. We don't want to do that every day and we, you know. So we need to find out.
Speaker 2:Okay, how often are we doing these things? Why are we doing these things? Why are we doing these things? Are we having a stress day, coming home and just wanting to sit on the couch and binge? That's not. It's not the food's fault. It's not the food's problem. It's that we can't adapt with our daily stresses. So we need to kind of address what's going on, because the food will kind of always be there. But yeah, and that's what I learned, mostly with the kids as well is I could feed them all the healthy foods, but they're going to go out and be 16 at some stage they're going to have their own money and if they don't understand how to have things in moderation and in proportion, then I feel like I wouldn't have done a good job. So a lot of my practice actually has switched. I don't do any restrictions, so I help people without restrictions.
Speaker 2:I don't restrict sugar, drink coffee. We drink alcohol. We need to learn how to have good habits. That's, in essence, what it is.
Speaker 1:Wow, people are going to be following you after this episode. They're going to be like, wow, I don't know how to do this. This is really interesting.
Speaker 2:I love this. I love this. It takes time. It takes time.
Speaker 1:I love this. If you have any questions, of course, be dropping a live chat. We'd love to hear from you and let Alana answer those questions for you. Now you mentioned something that your father said to you a while back, and I love the idea. I've heard it before in different iterations, but your father talked about health is wealth. Explain to me what that meant then and what that means to you today that health as well that's such a nice question.
Speaker 2:What did it mean then? As I was a so my dad's a chiropractor he kind of brought us up in this in his idea of health. You know like, yeah, health, chiropractic health, and everything was kind of health related, and he would always say health as wealth. And as a kid a healthy little kid you're like what does that even mean? I was like you were, oh man, what do you know? Um, so as a kid, that didn't really mean anything, I, but he just really drilled it into us.
Speaker 2:Um, over the years, and now I've realized, as I get older, as we all hit past 30 and the knee starts to hurt and you know conditions start to pop up, that if we get to the end of our days, you know, imagine yourself, yusuf, like if you're 80, and would you like, what kind of 80 year old or 90 year old or a hundred year old do you want to be?
Speaker 2:You know the type that's mentally active still, that can move around, or just the type that's in a vegetated state. You know, like what, would you prefer to have all the money and be in a vegetated state, or perhaps not all the money that you had ever wanted, but physically fit and mentally still fit. You know what? What would we, what would you prefer? So I think, for what he tried to really hone in was wealth isn't just monetary, like our health is what's going to carry us through, and so long as you're healthy, you were able to do the whole monetary game because you can, you know. So I think for him, that's what he was trying to really hone in. I guess I've never really thought about that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think that's what I would do. And now that you have some years of experience under your belt, what does it mean to you now? What's health and wealth mean to you personally?
Speaker 2:It may. Yeah, I mean, for me it means A not being hard on myself if I'm not ideally healthy. This is again the no restrictions. It's about enjoying life.
Speaker 2:But I think at the focus of my life I put my health first. So if I, you know, for example, I love to binge watch Netflix, sure, but I know that doing that all the time like it's just it doesn't serve me. It makes me tired, it makes me groggy and actually in the daytime, if I'm hooked on a series, I will often think about the storyline in the day, Like it consumes my day. And just as an example, you know I, when I don't watch a lot of TV, that brain power, I can use it for creative things. I am not tired in the morning, so I get up feeling energized, so I have the actual effort, the energy to have, the effort to go outside and this, so it has a cascading effect. So I try to make lifestyle choices, or lifestyle decisions that are going to positively impact my health.
Speaker 2:Because now, you know, I'm 38, things aren't bad, things aren't. You know, like I'm, I'm fine, I'm okay. But is it going to stay like that? I don't know. We don't know what's going to happen, so I'm just trying to, I guess, yeah, align with what's healthy, in a relaxed way as well. I'm not one of those people who are really on. You know, there's, there's a guy in the States I can't remember his name, but he's trying to reverse his aging. You know, he's sleeping, he's taking all these things and he's he's, I don't know like 40 and cellular. He's the age of an 18 year old and, yeah, that's I don't know. That's not life for me. We need to be humans.
Speaker 1:I, I, I like the science, but I like the science, but I don't want to play God in that regard. But you're from Australia. And now for me, just to be honest, I don't think I'm closed minded or anything, but for me, growing up in Australia, all you think about was Crocodile Dundee. That's all that I knew about Australia. Now it's evolved a little bit. Now we got what's the guy's name. He passed away recently, but Steve Irwin. I think his daughter's name is Bindi yeah that's his daughter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my understanding of Australia. I don't know a whole lot about it.
Speaker 2:I know they have rainforests today.
Speaker 1:Right, rainforests, yeah, in Australia, Okay, so I know a little bit about Australia, more than what I thought. But for you, what's your favorite food from Australia? That's the one that you sorely miss, like I have to have it when I go back. What's that food?
Speaker 2:That's a really good question. I'm going to answer that in a very long-winded way because you know you think about Crocodile Dundee or Steve Irwin. I think when a lot of people think about Australians, they might also think about the beach and perhaps, like a blonde-haired, blue-eyed surfer I'm not blonde hair or blue-eyed, my mum's Chinese, my dad's Scottish and like Australia, it's kind of like America. It's a mixing pot, like, of course we've got these blonde hair and blue eyed, you know the British colonizers, um, but we've got Serbians, italians, we've got Chinese, japanese, Koreans. It's such a intense mixing pot there. Indians, all types of like. We have everyone there. So when you say like Australia, like we're a young country, we're 200 and maybe 70 years old, we we have barbecues. I think maybe that's what people would think of the traditional australian meal that you know the saying chuck another shrimp on the barbie. Like we don't call them, we call them prawns in a in a popular culture?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I think so I don't. When I think of going home to eat, I think of Japanese food, chinese food, italian food. I don't think of Chinese food. Okay, when I go home, the first thing that I would grab because Australians are very snobby in this they love their coffee, they're coffee snobs and if you go to a cafe, they've got all different types of this that. So, for me, just going home and getting a very nice cup of barista coffee, soy latte, is yeah.
Speaker 1:Is there a specific brand of coffee that you're talking about?
Speaker 2:No, I think, just the way in which it's made.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm not the coffee snob, but I enjoy the snobbery of it because it means I get a good coffee from it. I respect that. I don't think I'm a snob either, but I'm very particular about what I like.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Which you will. All right, so you're in Germany now and you're adopting the culture there. We'll get a little bit more into the culture in a moment. But favorite food in Germany? I was in a conversation that was a chef at one time and in my training, my learning, I learned world culture so I made different foods. It was really hard for me to find something from germany that I enjoy making in my uh, in my education. What's your favorite food from germany? You've been there for a little bit now. You obviously you have to eat what they have. What have you found that it's your favorite now?
Speaker 2:so things that I've never really thought. Okay, so this is going to sound bizarre, but a potato in Australia tastes very different to a potato here, like okay, yeah, I can't, maybe it's the starch or maybe it's the way that they're grown, but the potatoes here, if they're cooked like, they're like gold nugget, they're delicious, they're so I nuggets.
Speaker 1:This is. I find the German meals to be quite heavy saucy.
Speaker 2:If you think of a German food, it's like potato with perhaps meat, meaty and like a saucy meat, and then red cabbage or something. And yeah, I mean this is okay every now and then, but uh, I don't, uh, I don't eat it too often because I find it quite heavy, to be honest that makes sense.
Speaker 1:That makes sense. But the potatoes you like, though, that's your favorite good.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can't just say but yeah, I, I just, yeah, I do love potatoes I have to say I do and also like sauerkraut. So sauerkraut, from a health point of view, you know, it's a, it's good for the gut microbiome, um, and that's just something that's naturally found here, because they have cabbage and they have so much cabbage they try to eat seasonal here and, uh, they ferment it and it's also really delicious I grew up having those on my hot dog so I'm very, very partial to the, to the, to the kraut, so I totally get that.
Speaker 1:Could you share what a typical meal is in the german household? Can you share what that looks like?
Speaker 2:okay. So you know, in america do you guys have hot dinners? Of course, yeah, they don't do that here no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:How are you eating? The food is cold, is room temperature. What's going on?
Speaker 2:they call it arben broad. It's like evening bread. It's um like if you go to a german household so they have hot lunches they'll have. Yeah, they, people go home for lunch. They used to. It's not so much anymore, but people used to go home. Schools finish at 1 pm. Here the kids would go home and eat lunch and then the day would be over and so they have. It's very natural for them to have warm lunches here, and then at dinner they have bread with cheese, liverwurst, perhaps some um vegetables as well, sauerkraut yeah, it's um is that that's all that's no, but is that happening in your household?
Speaker 1:is that what you're doing? Have you adopted?
Speaker 2:depends or depends who's, depends who's on dinner duty, right so?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know. What are you doing? What are you doing? What's olaf doing?
Speaker 2:I want to know so olaf would probably put together an albembrode, because a it's easy at the end of the day it's just a simple uh, a simple thing to do, it's also what's that he's putting together?
Speaker 1:what's that called?
Speaker 2:albem Broad, so the evening bread oh okay.
Speaker 2:I, on the other hand I don't know, I'm a bit, because I am working with nutrition every day the first thing I'm thinking about when I'm putting a meal together is okay, how am I going to make this nutritious? So I have certain cuisines I like just having a Chinese mom. Of course, I like a bit more of the Chinese stuff, but I I'm a bit of a throw together person. What do we have in the house and how can I throw it together to make a nutrition, nutritious meal? Yeah, that's, that's so I can run you through it if you'd like.
Speaker 1:I want to give you one example okay, well, let me okay.
Speaker 2:so, for example, if you think of this as a plate, if that's your plate, I'm looking for this much as a protein.
Speaker 1:Let's say that's what I do, great, I want to know what's on the plate.
Speaker 2:Exactly, let's just say chicken. Last night it was roasted chicken. I want to have half the plate of vegetables, that's half the plate, this, that's like. So half the plate, so this is as colorful as possible. We can have beetroots, we can have carrots, depending on the year, because it's quite seasonal. If you eat seasonal, it's fresh and you have a high nutrient count. Can also be salads, you know, half the plate, and then up here on that side, that would be your starchy, so your potatoes, or perhaps your grain, or your bread or pasta, whatever it is. So, yeah, for example, last night it was chicken with um carrots and salad and then potatoes and that's, that's a meal, and I had planned that I didn't really throw that together, but that would be a meal that tastes like golden nuggets.
Speaker 1:I, I gotta, I gotta dig down into some over I like, I like potatoes, like I can watch out for that. I understand that. But yeah, when that, when that happens, I think I know where you're going. Yeah, golden nuggets. Well I'm I better keep moving on.
Speaker 2:You need to think like seasonally, like that when they're freshly picked and like just you know they haven't been stored for a long time, they're fresh out of the earth and cooked butter and salt oh, this is like a good idea for me at this time in the morning to talk about.
Speaker 1:This is not good, but let's. Let's keep on moving, though, but I want to ask you a question. If you were not in the nutrition field we talked about this a little bit and I always ask to my guests if you were not in the field that you're in for you if you were not doing health after 30 years it's a podcast you were not doing nutrition, what would you be doing?
Speaker 1:hands down carpentry, carpentry, carpentry it's Every time I hear you say that I why carpentry Of all the things that you probably could be a wizard doing. How did we get there?
Speaker 2:You know, satisfaction is like creating something and using what you created. I find that there's just like a certain satisfaction to that.
Speaker 1:To be able to do something and then use it.
Speaker 2:I just, you know, like, if you needed a photo frame, I'm just going to put one together and then you have. Or I want to put shelves up, you can just create that. There's a certain satisfaction of creation and it's more than just art. You know, like if you were to draw a drawing, it's beautiful, you can hang it, it somewhere. But I feel like when it's functional, it's just got that. And also wood's just beautiful.
Speaker 1:I don't know like the texture of the texture of it at first I thought it was interesting and not not really weird, but and well, we both creators. But she created in that way and you're describing people do make those kind of projects and she'll do that and she'll have fun with it and she'll enjoy it. Look, look, I'm looking okay cool, that's great. You know, that's not. That's not my kind of. I'm more in the writing, creating musical. I'm not. I want to. I want to put a bite together. I want to put a cabinet together.
Speaker 2:I don't want to do any of that yeah, maybe, maybe it's the, maybe it's the hand, maybe it's the physicalness of it, because the things that you suggested then, like writing, making music, that's also creation, but it's uh, it's using the mental capacity yeah, and sometimes when they send you the cabinets, the instructions are not good, so that really bothers me putting if we buy something from ikea, my partner is also like I don't want to do it.
Speaker 1:I'm like let me get in there oh, I know you, I know you're nasty. I understand it about you now. So this is. This is really awesome. This is really awesome. Explain for us really quickly a day in the life of your business, in what you do. Tell me what a day looks like for you from a start to finish. How would that? If you can explain that?
Speaker 2:yeah, so you're probably the same. Like it's it's a lot of different moving parts in the business. So I see people one-on-one, like I see clients one-on-one. I create a podcast. I've I'm trying to be social on, I'm trying to be active on social media. Um, there's as well as the business side of it, so also I send out newsletters to people. I do treatment notes, like there's just so many, creating what the business is as well, working on myself and my mindset.
Speaker 2:So the average day I can't tell you exactly what happens in the average day, but my day is broken up into three parts. Okay, but, like you know, we've got, we've got the 12 hours. You know, six to six, let's say okay, okay, I um, I wake up kids school, you know, done right on home and from like say nine to lunch, this is my creative time. I really think that if I get up and check my emails in the morning, it just drains me. I put like all my energy into communicating with people and then I'm done and then after lunch I just feel completely depleted. So I take the morning time to do creative.
Speaker 2:So perhaps I'm creating ideas for the podcast, or perhaps I'm creating content for Instagram, or perhaps I'm creating how my business is going to go, and this can also sometimes be also my client notes as well. So putting energy into creating a treatment protocol for my clients. Then it's lunchtime and then after that that's all the email stuff, that's the getting back to people, organizing appointments, stuff like that, and then school pickup, get the kids, and usually it's a hectic afternoon, and then in the evening that's my learning time. So I'll often before I go to bed and yeah, it's just so I can kind of structure my day, because if I wake up and I'm like, what am I doing today? Then I check emails and then I listen to a podcast because I want to learn something, and then I feel like I have to plan content and it just gets a bit too much. So I have these three blocks now and I dedicate time into these three blocks.
Speaker 1:Okay, and where are your appointments in this block of time? When you have appointments, is that after lunch?
Speaker 2:No appointment. So right now, for example, our appointment is one is one o'clock, a social appointment, and I also catch up with my friends socially, usually after lunch as well. Um, but no, if I'm with clients I'll do it in the morning, because that's also yeah, it's a very um, it's a very engaging, intense process to work with someone and try and go through their whole health history. So I like to do it when I'm alert and on, so it usually be the morning as well okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is really good. I really enjoy you doing this and thank you. Everybody's listening and watching us. This is pretty awesome. Okay, I have one more question. Well, I have a question each about where you are now and where you came from. Uh, we had a great conversation about Germany. You mentioned the horrible history. Honestly, it's really hard to shake it. When you mentioned Germany, certain images come to mind, a perception of the country as a whole, if you will, but how would you explain the culture and the current affairs to somebody who may be curious, who may be listening right now, who thinks something about Germany that they may not actually know? I will share a story with you about my little sister. When she found out that I was moving to South Carolina, her perception of South Carolina was immediately people with straw hats and people riding around on tractors. She was thinking nothing like that at all. This is actually a city here.
Speaker 2:There's cars.
Speaker 1:There's cars on the road, not tractors. The horses don't ride on the road. It's not 1809. She thought that when people think about Germany, they may have a perception about what Germany is like. What's the current state of affairs there? What's the culture like there? Kind of share that real quickly with us, if you can.
Speaker 2:What's your idea of Germany? I'd love to hear.
Speaker 1:I don't have the image that I have before. I read I follow up on world affairs, so I don't think about Nazi Germany anymore. Can I read I follow up on World Affairs, so I don't think about Nazi Germany anymore? I used to and I hear German like, oh, it's automatically that even when I was in culinary school I was making the food. I'm like, ok, I didn't have that perception. I kind of got Got past as much as you can get past it because it's not, it's not a very nice history. Got past it as much as you can get past it because it's not, it's not a very nice history.
Speaker 1:But you know, for me I'm just thinking about people who are maybe a bit buttoned up yeah I'm seeing people who are maybe really organized, really smart and intelligent and really, uh uh, inventive and hands-on. I don't know what they're working towards or anything, but that's just how I view it. I don't know, no absolutely Like.
Speaker 2:I love how you said very, what was it? No, but yeah, I mean button up, but like also just very. Oh, what word did you say? This?
Speaker 2:And you said a particular word of like they're very organized. I think that's what you said. They're so organized, oh my, I think that's what you said. They're so organised, oh my gosh. It all works because it's organised.
Speaker 2:And I think when people think about Germany, and also because of what we see on TV, the Germans are always the baddies. You know, and of course, like the history, the Nazis were the baddies, like don't get me wrong, but still in TVs you'll see the Germans Like it's never, like a friendly German, like he's never the quarterback, like the German comes and he's always the stern one or the evil one or the yeah. And so I think we still have the idea of that and you know, yeah, they're rule followers and they do follow rules and I think that's probably why it happened. I think in any, actually in any country, having you know Hitler, for example, fascist, authoritarian, that, like any population, can probably be molded to think a certain way.
Speaker 2:I think for Germany at the time they had just got out of the first world, like this terrible thing that happened and they needed to kind of unify and they kind of came together and they got a bit. They got in the wrong situation and then the Holocaust and the second world war, so like it all kind of, was a really bad outcome for them, and I think they still carry a lot of trauma. They have inherited trauma.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:That was happening already, you know, 50 years ago, 80 years ago I think, with the Holocaust and people in my generation like they still they're shamed. You know, I remember when Olaf came to Australia they were kind of joking about like Hitler and stuff like that and the Australians joke about it, but for Olaf that was he was. He was like oh my gosh, what are these?
Speaker 2:people like dramatic, you can't say that, you can't do that, um and so yeah, and it's still there's a lot of, yeah, inherited trauma and they still carry a lot of guilt and a lot of shame and so, but at the same time, they're very aware. So at the moment, just with the political situation, there's a lot of they would call it like, um, a neo-nazi party kind of rising, because there's a lot of immigrants Angela Merkel let in. There's almost an from Syria and then from Ukraine.
Speaker 2:We've had almost, I think, a million people added to the population wow yeah, there's like a neo-nazi party kind of rising um and a lot of the Germans are now saying, hey, that's not okay, that party's not okay, depending what side. So it's just there's a lot of turbulence happening here right now because a lot of oh yeah, I think past trauma with like new things that are happening.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know really where I stand on it all and I don't want to bring too many politics into it, but it's yeah there's yeah, but, but if you strip all of that away and the reason that I'm living in Germany still now is because the yeah, the people are organised and it's great to be organised I've got my holidays for 2026 planned Like what I would never do, that no.
Speaker 1:I am not there.
Speaker 2:I am not there either, but my partner our holiday planner? He's yeah, like I am not there. Yeah, there I am, but my partner a holiday planner, he's yeah, like not there whatsoever okay, it's just yeah, very planned and very organized and very structured.
Speaker 2:And I kind of like that and I, we know, in the darkness of winter because it gets dark here in the winter and it's cold and it's depressing and they just go from being not so friendly to even less friendly. And Olaf always says to me you know, in the darkest winters, that's where the best philosophers and poets and scientists were created.
Speaker 1:So that's also what. Jones gave I guess I'll talk to you next spring yeah, exactly when you're happy. Yeah, exactly when you're happy.
Speaker 2:They're also like yeah, there's a nice, there's a nice analogy. They say that Germans are like watermelons and Australians or Americans are like peaches. So Australians and Americans they're quite, you know, soft on the like. It's very easy to have conversation with us, we're very sweet, but to really get to know someone and be able to really tap into really how they're feeling, it's quite hard. I don't know, that's what we say about Australians, whereas with Germans they're quite hard on the outside, but if you get through they're completely sweet and they're lovely people, but they have a heart outside.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, next to last question is going to be about Australia. You shared some feelings with me in our pre-production meeting about your perception that no one cares about Australia Made me kind of sad. I'm like why do you feel that way? Why do you think nobody cares about Australia, is that?
Speaker 2:what I said and I carried it with me since that conversation. Why do you?
Speaker 1:feel that way? Why do you think nobody cares about Australia? Is that what I said, and I carried it with me since that conversation. I'm like man, I care, I'm not doing anything, but I mean I don't not care about Australia, I mean. So why do you, from your perception, why do you think it's like that?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I think Australia is at the end of the world, right like no one really cares about our economy or our political system. Oh man, you do what I mean. I think you know you're like that. You're the last election that was everywhere. That in australia and japan was on the news. It was. It's not even our politics, and of course it affects the world, but everyone's hearing about it.
Speaker 1:Are you guys kind of independent? Is that what you mean? You're not attached to anybody, you're kind of separate.
Speaker 2:We're still a colony of Great Britain, but I just feel like we're just kind of at the end of nowhere. And then I feel in Australia people are very happy.
Speaker 2:They're just very happy, very content and um independent, and physically they're kind of. You know, geographically they're independent, um, but I think you know there are certain things like there's a there's a mine, because there's a lot of mining, a lot of coal mining in australia and I think there's something like a mine the size of texas in the middle of australia and no one like a massive mine and it's just, it's in the middle of australia and no one really talks about it at all haven't heard exactly, or you know, as I said, like the, the great barry reef, which was, you know, one of the seven wonders of the world, it's dead and you know now we've got like build ports there and harbours there, and it's just.
Speaker 2:I just wish that perhaps, and maybe from living in Germany, they're very politically active here. They stand up for what they believe and they put their foot down, and I think this is because of how they've been burnt in the past. I just wish that perhaps Australians were a bit more like that.
Speaker 1:They kind of stood up perhaps a bit more for what they want. This is not my question. I have one more question for you, but because of what you said and I have another question, but just so, I have a comment.
Speaker 2:Perhaps you should think about writing a book about Australia. What Australians can learn from Germans?
Speaker 1:No, I'm just talking about Australia period. What's going on, what people don't know about? It would be enlightening, because I didn't know about two of the things you mentioned. I know about the Barrier Reef, but I didn't know that they were essentially dead, like you said, and the coma. I had no idea. So there's a, there's a lie. It's not like it comes on the local news out here well, no, our news isn't really globally either.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I mean I think there's a lot going and I don't even that's just scratching the surface of you know, I know it is.
Speaker 1:You're not gonna have to have those kind of conversations offline. I have to to hit you with some text and hear more about Australia. As a matter of fact, I'm very interested. I think I'm going to do that, I'm going to stay about that and get more insight from you, because I may not be able to use it, but just for my own understanding, because I didn't know that that was going on. So I'll do that. But last question for you Go ahead and let everybody know where they can find your work and your podcast and everything. But if you can give it right to somebody who has heard about those fad diets and quick fixes and other counterfeit options about, about how to be healthy and whole, what kind of advice would you give them? That if they're listening right now? Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:I feel like this. That's a question that needs to be talked about more often, because everyone wants to be on a diet to get healthy. Diets don't work. If diets worked, the dieting industry wouldn't be a thing. So we need to think, and especially if weight is the goal for going on a diet, which sometimes it is, 95% of people who go on a diet will rebound back to their original. So we know it doesn't work.
Speaker 2:So the question is what does work? How can we get healthy? How can we feel well? And it's the boring stuff, it's not sexy. Yeah, make sure that we're sleeping well. We need to make sure that we're moving. We need to make sure that.
Speaker 2:You know it's okay to eat all the foods, but we just need to think about moderation, how much we're eating of them, proportion what's our 80 and what's our 20? And our variety. How much different foods are we eating? These are all three important factors, and then we need to just care about when we think about our overall health. How's our, how's our mental health like? How are we going? How do we check in with ourselves? How are you feeling? I might be feeling physically well, but emotionally, am I feeling okay? Is that a. Is that my body trying to tell me something, perhaps?
Speaker 2:So it's really hard to just be like, don't diet, and then what to do? Because it's actually it's it takes, it's a process, and there's so many things out there telling you this is the right thing. That's the right thing, you know. Go drink this smoothie, take this supplement. It strip all that away. Yeah, everything you need is exactly yourself. You have to think of yourself as a seed, right? A seed knows how to grow. If you put it in the ground and give it water in the right environment, an oak will grow in, like an acorn will grow into an oak tree. Your body, your health is the same. It knows how to thrive. It knows how to be well. It just needs to be put in the right environment so that's really good.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you so much for enlightening our audience and sharing that bit of your story and your experience. From Australia and Germany. We've all learned a lot. I know I did. Thank you for sharing with us and, if you can, let everybody know where they can find your work, whether it be your business and your podcast. As a matter of fact, after you do that, when we go off air in the comments section under the episode on our YouTube channel, share all your information there, because sometimes it gets lost in translation during a live episode. But can you share your website? Whatever information you have resources, you have Put them in the comments section so everybody that's listening can go find it very easily. But let everybody know where they can find your work and your podcast and your business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, guys, I've got. I've got free resources on my website. So for exactly what you were asking for them like, how do we do it? How did it get started? Check out the resources. Alannabonnemancom I'll put it in the notes Health after 30 is the podcast, and naturopathalanna is the Instagram account.
Speaker 1:I just realized You're on Apple podcast.
Speaker 2:I need to streamline those, I think.
Speaker 1:Okay, you're on Apple podcast, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, apple podcast.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, thank you again. This has been fantastic. I can't wait to hear more from you and what you're doing. Maybe, if you're all going to write a book that'd be awesome you can have you talking about it here. About australia, I mean, you got a lot. You got a lot to share that people are not hearing about, so I say that's valuable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listening wherever you are, and have you listening to the common mr you in this one-on-one episode? Thank you again for listening and for making this part of your week. Thanks for supporting alana and her in her her journey with the help after 30 and her business. If you have nutritional health questions, reach out to her. Thank you again for the opportunity to chat with you today and it's awesome and we're out of here. Have a great day, enjoy your week, stay healthy.
