Parenting Coach Jeanine Mouchawar - The Teenage Parenting Blueprint

Parenting teenagers can feel like navigating an emotional minefield where traditional discipline suddenly stops working. What happens when the close connection you once had with your child seems to vanish behind slammed doors and eye rolls?

This episode tackles uncomfortable truths rarely discussed, like those moments when you simply don't like your child. This perspective shift alone can transform how parents approach difficult conversations.

Ready to transform your relationship with your teenager? Visit Jeanine's website for her free guide featuring five conversation-starting questions that can help reduce arguments and open meaningful dialogue with your teen today.

• Transitioning from parenting young children to guiding teenagers requires new communication approaches
• Discipline becomes problematic when it crosses into excessive control and "my way or the highway" thinking
• Understanding that children process information differently can reduce parent anxiety about their methods
• Teenage behavior problems are often symptoms of deeper struggles that need compassionate exploration
• When parents feel triggered by teen behavior, pausing before reacting creates space for productive conversation
• Approaching teens with curiosity rather than correction helps maintain connection during difficult phases
• Recognizing when you don't like your child's behavior while remembering they are fundamentally good
• Communication skills from dialectical behavioral therapy can transform parent-teen relationships
• Shifting from trying to fix behavior to understanding emotions creates stronger connections
• Asking questions instead of making statements opens doors to meaningful conversation

Visit Janine's website at: https://www.jeaninemouchawar.com/ for free resources, including her guide with five questions to help reduce arguments and open conversations with your teenager.

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Chapters

• 0:38 Introduction to Janine Mouchoir
• 2:11 Why Traditional Parenting Wasn't Working
• 7:11 Discipline vs. Excessive Control
• 17:48 The Parenting Coaching Approach
• 27:34 When You Don't Like Your Child
• 31:53 Rebuilding Connection After Disconnection
• 38:20 Resources and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:38

Welcome back to One-on-One with Mr U. Of course, I'm your host, mr U, in studio with us today. Janine Mouchoir, parenting Coach, so we're excited about having you here, janine. We had an awesome talk in our pre-interview chat. How are you? Is all well and good with Megan Woods.

Speaker 2: 0:56

All is well. We've got a beautiful day in sunny Southern California, oh good.

Speaker 1: 1:01

Sunny California. Well, how nice for you.

Speaker 2: 1:05

Okay, yeah, it's so nice to be here, Yusuf. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1: 1:09

Same here, same here. Pleasure's mine. So let's go ahead and get into a few things here. We had an awesome chat and hopefully we can get into all the things that I wanted to ask you about. Hopefully we have time for it, but let's kind of start off with your upbringing, your background. Where do you come from? What was your childhood like? Give us a little bit of a sneak peek into that.

Speaker 2: 1:28

Oh sure, yeah, Thanks for asking. I'm originally from Southern California, so was lived in Northern California for about a decade and then came back down, had a really nice childhood. Thanks for asking. And then, yeah, I met my husband. We got married, had three children and I ended up where I am now as a parenting coach, because it felt like once my kids hit the teenage years, life got really messy and really hard. Teenage years life got really messy and really hard and I was just noticing that the way I was parenting wasn't really being as effective as I wanted it to be.

Speaker 1: 2:16

And.

Speaker 2: 2:16

I felt like, instead of really maintaining that connection that I had with my kids when they were younger, it felt like they were pulling away, and part of that, of course, is normal for the teenage years. But it was really important to me, having these three children, that not only could I help them through the challenges of high school and college, but I was setting you know, our situation up, where we felt close and connected for many years to come.

Speaker 1: 2:51

Okay.

Speaker 2: 2:51

So, yeah, that's kind of me and I just when I realized I just the strategies and the, the way I was kind of leading with punishments and discipline and consequences and like that that wasn't really working to really effectively help them and to stay close, I thought there's, there's just gotta be a better way. So I went searching for new parenting approaches and strategies because I think, you know, we can always although I had an amazing childhood, although I had an amazing childhood I think we can always work to improve on how we're connecting with our children and really guiding them and teaching them.

Speaker 1: 3:32

I like that.

Speaker 2: 3:32

That's what I do now. I'm a parenting coach.

Speaker 1: 3:36

I love this. I know there's a lot of people that are listening that have different childhood andings and stories to go with it. So for everybody that's listening and watching Janine and I on this episode today, if you have any questions about her approach to parenting and techniques, maybe it's things that you may want to implement. By all means, drop your comments and or questions right here in the live chat. We answer those while we're here live together. Also, you know I'm a big fan of a disciplined lifestyle. I know the importance of it. I know how it works.

Speaker 1: 4:12

I thank my mother for instilling that in me because I think I have a sneak peek of what I would have been had I not had that. So I'm not against that at all, but I totally get that. You know, sometimes we have to have different approaches because you know, we're complex people and, by extension, our children are complex too. We got three daughters my wife and I and we've seen that Even down to our grandchildren. We got six of those and we just seen parenting, parenting style it does vary on most people, but I'm excited to hear what you've been doing. There's so many things I want to get into, but one of the things that you and I were talking about were, but before we do you.

Speaker 2: 4:55

Can I piggyback on what you were talking about? Of course, of course, of course, thank. I am a disciplined person as well, and so I'm really glad you touched on that, because I don't want to give the impression that having discipline in your life and helping your children develop the tools of discipline is wrong or not effective wrong or not effective. But what I noticed is that oftentimes what happened with myself and a lot of clients that I have is the discipline turns into excessive control, like exerting your power over your children. Right, it has to be this way and this way only. Right that there's a real clear right and wrong, and it feels scary to leave room for the fact that you might be able to do things many different ways.

Speaker 2: 5:59

So, for example, when my kids were in high school, I had one child who operated very much like me. Right, you knew what you were going to do, you planned it in advance, you left room and time for multiple drafts on your essay. Right, very disciplined and thought out. I had another child who it terrified me because she didn't function that way. She was, in my eyes, a complete procrastinator and didn't write the essay until the night before.

Speaker 1: 6:37

Oh, goodness Okay.

Speaker 2: 6:38

I can't relate. It was really, really challenging and I know I'm not alone on this because I've coached other clients about this issue as well. But what I learned because she ended up still getting straight A's is ah, there's not one right way to do things. There are multiple ways, and what I saw in myself and what I've observed in some clients is sometimes the discipline thing takes us in a direction that's not helpful. Wait, am I teaching discipline right now in terms of staying organized and staying on top of it and building up grit and building up frustration, tolerance or am I teaching discipline?

Speaker 2: 7:42

in terms of it has to be my way or the highway. I just kind of wanted to zoom in on that a little quick because you had reflected that disciplines worked well for you and you've shared that with your children.

Speaker 1: 7:54

Yeah, well, absolutely the procrastination part. That's something I can't relate to. I think the stress that I feel it's just me talking now speaking about Mr you the stress that I feel waiting to the near last minute is frustrating. There's been times I've been asked to speak at a particular event and they didn't give me a lot of time to prepare. The stress levels they were super high. I'm like, okay, I don't even get two weeks.

Speaker 2: 8:26

I don't even get one week.

Speaker 1: 8:27

So I'm thinking procrastination, for me, is totally not the answer. I'd love to know how they do it, just to get a view into their mind. How do you wait until the night before and still get straight A's? Do you know how she did it? Believe?

Speaker 2: 8:43

me. I asked Did you?

Speaker 1: 8:44

have technique.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Because I was so blown away. I said I was like I really need to understand this on a deeper level, because I was noticing I was having anxiety, I was panicking, and then I was basically vomiting my panic and anxiety onto her.

Speaker 1: 9:07

And that did not work well at all.

Speaker 2: 9:07

No, I did ask her and it was fascinating. She said it's not that I'm not thinking about it, mom. It's just that the way it works best for me is to take a topic and to let it like percolate in my mind and I'm thinking about it throughout my day and it's formulating in my mind versus, if I do it your way, mom right, I'm not ready to put words to a paper two weeks in advance and then, as I edited, edited, edit, it really just takes the whole life out of my essay.

Speaker 2: 9:53

And she just said that's how her brain works and she's better to just let it percolate, percolate, and then she just gets it all down and it comes out great the first time, which is not the way I work. But I think the lesson here is just to to understand and to realize that your children might not function exactly as you do and that to ourselves there's no one right way. There's just the way that works for us.

Speaker 1: 11:11

Yeah, I feel even more weird now after hearing this explanation because I don't want to last minute, but I'm not pen to paper right away either. I am a processor to the frustration of people in my life and in my household. Do you have an answer yet? I'm like, no, I'm still processing this, I'm still thinking about what I heard. I'm not ready to give a diagnosis, if you will, or an evaluation of what I heard. It takes me a while to process stuff. So in that regard, I get it. Let's get into more about the parenting part. I think that you know a lot of folks listening and I hear some things, some stories, people who I know are part of our listenership and they kind of just feel like you know what they're cool, winging it. They grew with, just kind of you know doing what they know and if something happens they'll cross that bridge when they get to it. But it feels like you were more intentional about trying to, I guess, address and attack the issue head on. Is that what I understood from our pre-interview chat?

Speaker 1: 12:16

yes it's okay. So talk. So talk to me about why you felt like you. You need to do that when so many others that we both know kind of have the wing it approach and they're not. They're not panicking until it's time to panic. I guess you could say yeah yeah, no, I hear you.

Speaker 2: 12:32

I mean I, you know, I think we, we all wing it to some degree because we were, we never attended parenting classes.

Speaker 1: 12:45

Yeah, so so you were never taught how to parent.

Speaker 2: 12:50

So really that leaves us winging it, and the winging it tends to come from how we were raised, because it's really the only exposure that we've had to parenting. Okay, Okay, and so you know, no shame on winging it. I think that's what we're all left doing, unless we intentionally look for new strategies and new ways to parent. Okay, and started attending parenting classes is because my relationship with my kids wasn't what I wanted, right? So with one child, we argued on all the time and it turned into massive explosions and you know like it ended with slam doors or eye rolls or right all that stuff that really feels disrespectful to parents, you know.

Speaker 2: 13:53

With another child, you know there was a lot of anxiety and a lot of stress and I, although I grew up in a home where I learned how to listen, I wasn't listening deeply enough and able to really constructively help the anxiety and the stress pass. And so, although I was listening, I'm noticing that what I'm doing isn't really helping get rid of this anxiety and stress. It's just still percolating and if anything, it's hampering my child's development. Anything it's, it's, it's hampering my child's development, and so you know all that. To say that and I had one that was a little quieter, so it was just that I was noticing that how I was showing up as a parent, the way I was parenting, wasn't like my goal as a parent was to help my kids be the best version of themselves, and what I was noticing is what I was doing wasn't fostering that to the extent that I wanted it to.

Speaker 1: 14:57

Okay.

Speaker 2: 14:58

And so that's why I went and sought out additional resources. Does that answer your question?

Speaker 1: 15:05

It does answer the question. I got several more, so I'm hoping we can get through this and get into some of these questions. I don't want to leave anything out because they're really good. I think your answers are going to be great. One thing I want to ask you also is you know if you can for us briefly describe the process in which you parental coach, if you will, and why you think the process works? I'm asking that that's kind of a two part question there. What's the process, briefly, and why do you think it works?

Speaker 1: 15:35

I'm asking that because, like you said a little while ago, we didn't have any coaching books. I don't, I don't. I don't recall any at all with any of the three of our daughters. I don't recall any availability of that kind of a resource. So I'm saying so, we had to pull a lot from what we had in our own households when we were the children. I mean, it's low-hanging fruit, but that's what we had to pull from. And if you want to use the Cosby Show as an example, I guess you can use that as well. I mean, I don't know what people use as references. I mean, I know I use that a little bit.

Speaker 2: 16:08

I talked about it in books and podcasts.

Speaker 1: 16:11

I'm pretty transparent about it. That was my model, because I didn't have that makeup in my household, so I pulled from that. But I think one of the things I wanted to just say here is that every household is definitely different and we're unique. The parents are unique. We have unique backgrounds. We got things that are triggers for us. We got things that are triggers for us. We have things that are triggers for the kids now because of what they, what they intake socially and through media, et cetera. So I'd love to hear you know briefly what your process is and why you think it will work, generally speaking. Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 2: 16:49

Yeah, thanks for asking. I think the big aha I had when I came into this work is recognizing okay, I've got this problem right. There's arguments, there's tension, there's conflict in the home. They're not listening. They're making choices that are scaring me, you know, regarding what they're watching on social media or, you know, trying pot or e-cigs or alcohol right, there's all these behaviors that I think naturally worry and scare parents and scare parents, and what I noticed and learned is that what we tend to do when we're worried and we're scared and we're freaked out is we want our kids to stop what they're doing or to change what they're doing. Right, it applies to everything. If they're disrespectful, we want them to stop being disrespectful. If they're not studying and doing their homework right, we want that to change. If they're lying to us, we want to try to fix that.

Speaker 2: 18:02

And what happens with that approach for most of us is this disconnection that we talked about. Right, it turns into conflict. I mean, you might have one child who is very argumentative and there's yelling and there's screaming, and then you might not have another child who just tells you what they think you want to hear, just to shut you up and walk away, right, but it's some form of our child is disconnecting from us and from the conversation. They're trying to shut it down because they don't like what we're trying to do, which is stopping or fixing or changing their behavior. Right, Like you should really set your alarm when you wake up in the morning so you get to school on time, Right? Or why aren't you telling me the truth? I know you're lying to me. You tried it, E-Cig, Just tell me. Right, Any of these versions of things? Like I looked in the school portal and you're missing six assignments. Like get off your phone and start telling.

Speaker 2: 19:08

Right.

Speaker 1: 19:09

Wow.

Speaker 2: 19:09

Any of these things, I think, are very common, and so, when we're leading with trying to stop or fix or change their behavior, versus now that they're teenagers, what they really want is for us to listen to them and to feel like we really understand what's going on deep down inside of them. Are they not studying because they asked a question in class and they're embarrassed because their friends made fun of them, right? So now they're unmotivated to study, right? So our challenge now, what they need from us, is really slowing ourselves down and trying to understand what's going on inside of them that's causing the behavior that's freaking us out.

Speaker 1: 20:00

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 20:02

That's where my process came from.

Speaker 1: 20:06

OK.

Speaker 2: 20:06

And there's a few like main steps that we do but to share on a podcast. I'll try to make it really brief.

Speaker 2: 20:14

The first one is what you mentioned about being triggered. I think we all are naturally get triggered when our kids are making bad choices, and what most of us do is that's when we think it's like the best time to go talk to our kids. Right, you're freaked out, you're worried, you're angry, whatever you're feeling. It doesn't feel good. You want it to stop. You think the way it'll stop is if I just tell my kid you know, you have to, you know study for the, the test, you need to put your phone away, and that that will make us feel better. But what happens is we get stuck in this horrible cycle of we are triggered, we react, and then our kid reacts to that and the whole thing ends up in an argument or slam doors.

Speaker 1: 21:09

Yeah, I tried that you tried what.

Speaker 1: 21:15

I've tried that approach where I was telling them what they needed to do because as dad I knew better. It took me a long and I'm not happy about this because I'm a little bit ashamed it took me a long time in their development, in their time in our home, to figure out. You know what. It's better for me to ask questions than to make statements Exactly, do you think that this is a good idea? Tell me why you think this helped with the goal you said you told me you had about your career, your future. Tell me how what you're doing right now helps toward that. And so you know, and it does like your program does. It does minimize the conflict, but the tension part is kind of still there, like okay, now he's digging into a place where I'm really uncomfortable now. But this is what we have to be, because your behavior now doesn't. It's not conducive to what you say you want. No. If you don, you want no.

Speaker 2: 22:12

If you don't want anything.

Speaker 1: 22:13

Why don't you want anything? We got to find out what the root cause of all this stuff is, but I love to go ahead. Keep going, it's great.

Speaker 2: 22:19

Yeah, no, that's so insightful and I love how you shared. It took a long time. Yeah, this stuff isn't easy, but it's doable. And it starts with asking questions no-transcript, right. So let's say you again, like, see that they got a D on a test, and then you naturally think I know exactly why they got a D on that test. Right, they were messing around, they're on their phone for hours and then they didn't get enough sleep and your mind makes all of these assumptions. But when we do that, it doesn't help them actually do better on the next test.

Speaker 2: 23:15

What does is getting curious why they didn't do well in the first place, and that's kind of piggybacking on what you said, right? So, starting to take what you're nervous or worried or angry or scared about and try to, instead of telling them what they need to do differently, asking them so what's the struggle here? Like I see you're struggling, right, you got a D on the test. What's going on? And trying to open up conversation so you can discover, like you said, the root cause of the problem. And when you get to the root cause, all of a sudden you're having a really different conversation. You're not saying, like you know, give me your phone. Instead you're saying oh okay, so you really don't understand that concept in math. God, that must feel really awful to feel like you don't get it and maybe a little embarrassing that you didn't do well on the test. Like what do you want to do differently to figure out how to learn the information?

Speaker 2: 24:26

And really right, asking them for their solution. Our teenagers are craving, right, we all know they're pulling away and they want their independence and they're craving from us, almost like being a sounding board where they can get out what they're feeling, what they're thinking, and then come up for themselves with a different something to do differently so they make a better choice. And so it's really just. I help parents figure out how to do that and how to have that kind of different conversation, because it's really that conversation that's going to make you feel better as a parent. You will feel more confident because you see your child engaging and talking to you and sharing with you, and it feels good to them for you to ask these questions and for them to feel like they can share with somebody that they trust. And then, all of a sudden, they want to do it more because it feels good. It doesn't feel good to be lectured, not for you, not for me, not for anyone.

Speaker 1: 25:35

Absolutely Well. We only have time for a few more questions. See if we can try to get these in here. One of the things that you talked about. This is probably going to be a tough one, but I want to get you to speak to it like you did in our pre-interview chat.

Speaker 1: 25:49

But you know, as parents we deal with a whole bunch of heavy stuff in life. Our kids don't even fully understand all we deal with in life, just all of the, like you said, the triggers and all the things that we deal with in the workplace and just adult stuff that they don't have to fully understand. But when we come home, we want to come home to a calm, peaceful household. It's just, it's our castle, it's our hideaway from the big bad world outside. We want to just have peace.

Speaker 1: 26:19

And I experienced something that I want you to kind of talk about. You talked about what to do when you don't really like your child. I thought that was a powerful, powerful thought, because there were times and my wife, if she was here right now, she probably would, she would probably be in full agreement there were some times where and it wasn't any particular daughter per se, I won't point them out, but some times we didn't like what we saw, we didn't like our children, and there's a period of grief that goes with that, because you're losing the child you remember or you once knew, or you thought you knew, and now you're seeing a whole different person. So share your experience about not liking what you've seen in your teenager.

Speaker 2: 27:04

Yeah Well, thanks for sharing that as well. I think it's hard to share those things. We feel like we shouldn't say that we're supposed to like. I don't mind.

Speaker 2: 27:15

I'm good. Yeah, I, you know. I think the best place to start is and I'm so glad we're having this conversation is, if any of your listeners feel that way to to first recognize like you're not a bad parent, there's nothing wrong with you. You and your child are in a just human to human relationship and in life there's people that we don't like, and that's right, that's okay. We are not surprised about that.

Speaker 2: 27:49

But sometimes it's really hard to like your child when you see them making really poor choices or you know you see them not listening to you and you think, gosh, if you just listen to me, right, life would be so much easier. So I think we can get stuck right in those thoughts. So I think we can get stuck right in those thoughts and to me, you know, I would just offer one of the ways through that. There are lots of different ways, but one of the ways through that is to just slow yourself down and take a look at your child and say you know what my child's struggling right now? They're not a bad kid, they're not a bad person, they're really a good kid who's just struggling right now to. And then fill in the blank right, not lie, tell the truth, be respectful, study enough, you know, get off their phones, all those things. And I think, as soon as we can kind of look through the lens of, okay, this is this is my child struggling with a behavior right now, and how can I help them with that? That will create a shift inside yourself right there, right. So it's like it's not this, oh, I can't stand my kid. It's that. Oh wait, something that they're doing is really difficult right now for me to watch and live with, but to recognize that my kid's really a good kid at heart who's just struggling right now.

Speaker 2: 29:28

And so one thing you know I'll offer is sometimes it's great just to come up with some sort of mantra or phrase that you can say in your mind when your child's triggering you and you're feeling like I don't like this kid right now. You know something like this is just for today, not forever. I use that one a lot, right? Or gosh, you know they just haven't figured out how to make friends yet, right. Or they just haven't figured out how to tell me what they're struggling with or frustrated with or angry about in a respectful way yet, right. And so it's just trying to find some ways to create some, some room and get back into that compassionate, empathetic heart that you have, because I know everyone has that. Like we're their parents and you know, like we've touched on you want them to succeed and be happy and be a good character and a good person, and I think most of us you know we had kids because we want to enjoy being together and being close. So hopefully a few of those ideas, yeah, help out Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 30:52

Absolutely One thing you mentioned also too, and I've only got room for a couple more questions. Then we're going to go ahead and sign off and I'll have you reach out to anybody how they can reach out to you, I would say. But you mentioned about the inability to connect with one of your children. You and your husband had a challenge with that children. You and your husband had a challenge with that. Can you briefly share about you know, when you noticed that you weren't connecting and what you did to kind of attempt to remedy the situation.

Speaker 2: 31:22

Yeah, yeah, so what I was doing when we were disconnecting is, you know he was doing things that I mentioned were worrying me. Right, the grades were dropping. He was in a friend group that I didn't think was a good influence.

Speaker 2: 31:37

He started smoking pot. And as these behaviors were happening and I got more and more worried and freaked out, I was tightening the reins, right. I was trying to control the situation because I was so just worried and scared and hurt, and you know, so I was doing lots of things, right, I took away any access to money, I took away any access to his car. I, you know, was tracking him everywhere he was going and if he wasn't at school, I go drive and try to bust him ditching school. And I was just looking at my own behavior, going. Wait, this is terrible and this is not who I want to be. And you know, there's, there's got to be a different way for me to help him and for us to get back to that connection and closeness we once had. I mean, he was, you know, a very sweet boy and kind of to what we talked about in the last question you asked me. It's like trying to connect back and realize that he is a really sweet, kind kid who's just struggling right now with some behaviors.

Speaker 2: 32:59

And so we actually went together to a parenting program and it was based in dialectical behavioral therapy, which is a big hodgepodge way to say. You know. We learned how to regulate our emotions right, manage our emotional reactivity when someone says something or does something that triggers us. We learned just interpersonal communication skills how do we communicate with one another and really listen to each other actively listen to what's going on and we learned mindfulness skills right how to notice what we're thinking when we're thinking not so kind thoughts about the other person, and how to redirect our thoughts and reframe those things. So these are just some of the tools that we learned.

Speaker 2: 33:53

Basically, if I had to pull back, they were new communication skills, new language to use with one another that wasn't triggering and where the other person really felt heard, and so we went through this together and I just saw such an incredible transformation in our relationship and my ability to really help him.

Speaker 2: 34:20

That's when I just thought I've got to share this with as many people as possible.

Speaker 2: 34:27

It's a shame that these communication approaches and this language that really works with teenagers is not available to the masses, and so that really is what inspired me to, you know, coach moms and dads one-on-one and help them get this like deeper understanding of what's going on with their teenager and how best to communicate with them so they can really help them and feel that you know, like you said, no one wants to come home into a house that's filled with tension and conflict and arguments.

Speaker 2: 35:06

It's like you've had a long, hard day. You want to come home to a home that's calm and peaceful. You want to come home to a home that's calm and peaceful and what I guess I want your audience to know is that's completely possible if you just change what you're saying and your energy when you're talking into conversations with your child right to feel more calm and more grounded when you enter the conversation so you're not emotionally reactive, and then really just to start turning your worries, um, and things that you want them to stop or change, and starting that conversation with really some curious questions absolutely so.

Speaker 1: 35:49

I'll ask one more question, and then I'll give you a chance to let everybody know where they can find your work. Our final question for today If you were not coaching and parenting, what do you think you'd be doing instead?

Speaker 2: 36:03

Oh, oh wow. What would I be doing instead? I don't know if I've ever even thought about that, yusef, because I really, really love what I'm doing.

Speaker 1: 36:14

When I'm not coaching.

Speaker 2: 36:17

My kids are all young adults now, and so when I'm not coaching, I do love to go do things with them. So my daughter lives in New York and I just came back from a really long weekend with her and you know we ate yummy food. I know you did Like this incredible magic show, and just to me.

Speaker 1: 36:44

I saw some of the pictures. I saw some of the pictures.

Speaker 2: 36:47

It was amazing and I just I love the energy of New York and just the different people that you come across and the conversations you have.

Speaker 1: 36:58

The pizza. Come on, yes, the pizza. Don't forget that part that's really important the pizza.

Speaker 2: 37:07

Yes, it's like yeah, California doesn't make pizza like New York pizza. So yeah, that's what I love doing.

Speaker 1: 37:15

That's good. I love this. I love this. Let everybody know where they can find your work. And also, at the end, once we sign off, I'd love for you to go to our YouTube channel, of course, where the episode is, and, in the comments section, drop your links or anything that you want to share. That's beneficial to our listeners and your audience that are watching via YouTube. But for now, go ahead and share where they can find your work, and then we'll go ahead and sign off.

Speaker 2: 37:42

Thanks for asking Yusef.

Speaker 2: 37:44

Yeah, if you want to learn more about the things I was talking about today, the best place to start is my website, which is just my name, and once you're there, there's free resources and I think that's like a great place to start. I'm also on Instagram and Facebook. I have a Facebook group and on LinkedIn and I recently started a YouTube channel uploading some videos. So excited to be doing this with you today.

Speaker 2: 38:15

But what I really would love to offer your listeners we talked a lot today about well, where can I start if I really want these you know arguments to subside and and have my child open up if they're not talking at all? And the best place to start and I'll put the link in the comments is with a guide I created that has five questions that you can ask your teenager today. That will help the arguments subside and conversation open up. So, if you are intrigued by what we talked about and you're wondering, okay, but how do I take something I'm really worried and concerned about and ask a question about it and still get them to make a you know change what they're doing? This is a great place to start.

Speaker 1: 39:02

That's fantastic. Thank you for jumping on here. This was a fantastic conversation. I know that somebody's going to find value with it. Don't watch my YouTube channel if you don't mind. Jeine, after we sign off, drop all the links and everything in the comments section under the episode so people can find your work Again. Pleasure to have met you here and got to know you a little bit. You got a beautiful family and I love what you're doing, thank you. Thank you for being here and doing this.

Speaker 2: 39:31

Thank you for having me my pleasure.

Speaker 1: 39:34

My pleasure. Well, janine and Mr, you were out of here. Thanks for watching and listening. Have a great day, guys.